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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2010, 10:50:08 PM »
Excellent research chinesecoinworks and poconopenn, thank you both.

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2010, 11:15:09 PM »
EBay has suspend seller "merchant.cs", one hour after I posted here.

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2010, 01:51:47 AM »
Well, it looks like it is achieving something then. Congratulations for this success.

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2010, 07:36:39 PM »
Here is another seller, located in China with a feedback score more than 5,000. Seller “jewerly929” sold more than 10,000 cheap items in last 6 months and started to sell fake 1 oz gold panda on 9/22/10.
   
Completed listings of 68 1 oz gold panda. All coins were sold in last three days (9/22-9/24) with a ending value about 50% of the gold value.

http://completed.shop.ebay.com/Coins-World-/256/i.html?LH_Complete=1&_catref=1&_fln=1&_ipg=50&_since=15&_sop=12&_ssn=jewelry929&_trksid=p3911.c0.m282

Current active listings have two  fake 1 oz gold pandas . Both coins have a BIN price at $999 and more than 10 available.

http://shop.ebay.com/jewelry929/m.html?_nkw=gold+panda&_sacat=0&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1313

This seller has an identical pattern as other scammers “andylove209010” and “zhouyiming2009”, mentioned above. The pictures of 1 oz gold panda are identical to those scammers. They may be the same person or at least related.

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2010, 08:12:29 PM »
Here is another seller, located in China with a feedback score more than 5,000. Seller “jewerly929” sold more than 10,000 cheap items in last 6 months and started to sell fake 1 oz gold panda on 9/22/10.
   
Completed listings of 68 1 oz gold panda. All coins were sold in last three days (9/22-9/24) with a ending value about 50% of the gold value.

http://completed.shop.ebay.com/Coins-World-/256/i.html?LH_Complete=1&_catref=1&_fln=1&_ipg=50&_since=15&_sop=12&_ssn=jewelry929&_trksid=p3911.c0.m282

Current active listings have two  fake 1 oz gold pandas . Both coins have a BIN price at $999 and more than 10 available.

http://shop.ebay.com/jewelry929/m.html?_nkw=gold+panda&_sacat=0&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1313

This seller has an identical pattern as other scammers “andylove209010” and “zhouyiming2009”, mentioned above. The pictures of 1 oz gold panda are identical to those scammers. They may be the same person or at least related.

One person definitely can't do all the works.   We are facing a group here.
If eBay can't find a way to stop them, no doubt we will see more gold panda scams.
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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2010, 01:15:16 AM »
Scammer “jewelry929” just changes ID to "sw888k".

This seller has no current active listing for gold panda, but still has about 700 items of cheap jewelry items.

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2010, 01:21:34 AM »
Good job staying on top of that. This list is pretty handy. I check it whenever I see something interesting from a seller I don't know.

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2010, 12:24:26 PM »
It is my understanding that the scammers do ship the fake gold coins with a tracking #. The fake coin is gold plated copper coin, weighs about 23gm and cost about $5, as shown in the pictures.. The shipping time will be about 3-4 weeks. Therefore, eBay will not take any action until several defruaded buyers file dispute report for refund. As soon as the seller can prove the delivery of item, eBay/Paypal can not hold the fund in the seller's account, unless the buyer files dispute before the delivery. Since all listings were completed in a span of 2-3 days. Most likely, all items will be shipped the same day and received by buyers about the same time. Clearly, these scammers were to try to time feedback received so it would happen after the scam was complete and funds removed from PayPal. These scammers definitely have the chance to take some money (not all) and run before eBay/Paypal can take action. We have a pretty sophisticated group of crook on our hands.

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2010, 08:39:31 PM »

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2010, 08:01:23 PM »
Anyone knows this seller? Maybe want to tell him he's selling fake, not 999 silver at all: http://cgi.ebay.com/1-oz-ag-999-fine-2003-Panda-nice-cameo-finish-it-/260674124712?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb1637ba8

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2010, 11:26:12 PM »
I notified one seller at one time and I was called every name in the book and that he had 40+ years of experience in dealing with coin.

Just my 2 cents.

-PandaOrLunar

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2010, 02:13:09 AM »
According to the feedbacks, this seller had past histroy of selling fake coins. Here are more fake panda coins listed by this seller (ratman1234). This seller knows exactly what his/her items, fake coins. The only description of those fake coins is "The picture is exactly what your bidding on and will get".

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-oz-ag-999-fine-2002-Panda-nice-cameo-finish-it-/260674123264?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb1637600

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-oz-ag-999-fine-1989-Panda-nice-cameo-finish-it-/260674126138?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb163813a

http://cgi.ebay.com/1-oz-ag-999-fine-1993-Panda-nice-cameo-finish-it-/260674127776?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cb16387a0



   

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2010, 03:10:15 AM »
This is a funny one: http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330482909007&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:SG:1123#ht_5784wt_1141

2005 5oz Panda minted in 1986 in Singapore Mint ...  :lol:

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2010, 06:37:12 PM »

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Re: List of Fake Coin Sellers
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2010, 08:31:10 PM »
Reported.

"marylq1987" has the same MO as "andylove209010",“zhouyiming2009", "merchant.cs" and “jewerly929”; starting as a cheap bead seller to amass tremendous feedback and confidence prior to pulling the scamming trigger. This seller currently has 26 listings of fake 1 oz gold panda. 21 listings will be ended in less than one hour (one day listing) and 5 BIN listings ($999 for 1 oz gold) have multiple items, more than 10 avaliable.

http://shop.ebay.com/marylq1987/m.html?_nkw=gold+panda&_sacat=0&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_odkw=&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3911.c0.m270.l1313

Item # for fake 1 oz gold panda listings:

270649684070, 270644823546, 270649685011, 270649685330, 280575555978,
270644823934, 280575556103, 280575556443, 270649686551, 270644820882,
280575556717, 280575557171, 280575557432, 280575557476, 270644823060,
280575557910, 270649688448, 280575558513, 270644821748, 280575559541,
280575560910, 280575561904, 270644821098, 270649694024, 280575564467,
270649698229

If you are interested in reporting this scammer to eBay, the following is the link specially designed for fake coins at eBay.

http://www.ebay.com/ccw