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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #285 on: October 13, 2015, 11:43:59 PM »
What happened to the Zhuozhengyuan you spoke of in June?

Here is the design of the next medal in the series, Zhuozhengyuan (Humble Administrator's Garden) in Suzhou. Designed by Zhu Xihua and Quan Jianfeng, both from Shanghai Mint.

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #286 on: October 13, 2015, 11:52:58 PM »
It seems that, each year, the mintage goes down for the current year's medal. Is that an indication of poor sales and successively lower demand, or something else?

I bought the 2010 Yu yuan medal but have not purchased any since. The medal is beautiful, howevwr, I decided not to make a habit of paying big premiums for medals.

I believe a similar observation was made previously; I am trying to remember if by davidt. I don't know the exact reason for the falling total mintage of the Classic Garden Series but it could be as a result of sales experience from a preceding series, coincidence (at least initially) or a deliberate strategy to decrease the number of possible complete sets of the series, thereby increasing their value.
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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #287 on: October 14, 2015, 01:00:15 AM »
Just for information

Recent auction results at zhaooline for some post-2010 low mintage medals. The price given includes buyer's premium.


PRC, 2014, Blooming Flowers-Draong and Phoenix 1oz silver medal set in NGC holders (graded PF69 Ultra Cameo, with certificate and box, mintage 666 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3438672-detail.shtml ($166.68)

PRC, 2013, Chinese Garden-Lan ting 2oz silver proof medal in NGC holder (graded PF69, with certificate, specifications and original box, mintage 2,000 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3451880-detail.shtml  ($365.05)

PRC, 2015, Classic Gardens-Summer Palace Gate 2oz silver proof medal in NGC holder (graded PF69 Ultra Cameo, with certificate and original box, mintage 1,200 pieces)

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3450840-detail.shtml ($319.19)

PRC, 2010, Classic Gardens-Yuyuan Yangshan Tang 2oz silver proof medal in NGC holder (graded PF68, with certificate and original box, mintage 2,010 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3435821-detail.shtml ($164.54)

PRC, 2015, Sacred Buddhist Mountains-Songzi Guanyin 2oz silver medal (with certificate and original box, mintage 199 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3448181-detail.shtml ($106.37)

PRC, 2013, Sacred Buddhist Mountains-Mt. Wutai Wenshu 80g silver medal (with certificate and box, mintage 999 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3440162-detail.shtml ($114.68)

PRC, 2014, Guanyin Offering Water 2oz silver proof medal in NGC holder (graded PF70 Ultra Cameo, with certificate and box, mintage 199 pieces)
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http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3439642-detail.shtml ($219.39)

PRC, 2010, Classic Gardens-Yuyuan Yangshan Tang 2oz silver proof medal in NGC holder (graded PF68, with certificate and original box, mintage 2,010 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3435820-detail.shtml ($122.92)

PRC, 2014, 1st Macau International Coins & Precious Metals Expo 1.5g gold + 30g silver bi-metallic proof medal in NGC holder (graded PF69 Ultra Cameo, with certificate, mintage 300 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3399745-detail.shtml ($124.65)

PRC, 2014, Shanghai Mint, Classic Garden-Summer Palace Corridor 2oz silver medal (diameter 40mm, with certificate and original box, mintage 1,500 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3392542-detail.shtml ($151.21)

PRC, 2014, 2nd Panda Coin Collection Expo-Giant Panda 2oz piedfort silver medal in NGC holder (graded MS70, with certificate and original box, mintage 299 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3388897-detail.shtml ($169.53)





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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #288 on: October 14, 2015, 01:15:34 AM »
What happened to the Zhuozhengyuan you spoke of in June?

It will be minted next year.

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #289 on: October 14, 2015, 01:36:34 AM »
Just for information

Recent auction results at zhaooline for some post-2010 low mintage medals. The price given includes buyer's premium.


PRC, 2014, Blooming Flowers-Draong and Phoenix 1oz silver medal set in NGC holders (graded PF69 Ultra Cameo, with certificate and box, mintage 666 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3438672-detail.shtml ($166.68)

PRC, 2013, Chinese Garden-Lan ting 2oz silver proof medal in NGC holder (graded PF69, with certificate, specifications and original box, mintage 2,000 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3451880-detail.shtml  ($365.05)

PRC, 2015, Classic Gardens-Summer Palace Gate 2oz silver proof medal in NGC holder (graded PF69 Ultra Cameo, with certificate and original box, mintage 1,200 pieces)

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3450840-detail.shtml ($319.19)

PRC, 2010, Classic Gardens-Yuyuan Yangshan Tang 2oz silver proof medal in NGC holder (graded PF68, with certificate and original box, mintage 2,010 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3435821-detail.shtml ($164.54)

PRC, 2015, Sacred Buddhist Mountains-Songzi Guanyin 2oz silver medal (with certificate and original box, mintage 199 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3448181-detail.shtml ($106.37)

PRC, 2013, Sacred Buddhist Mountains-Mt. Wutai Wenshu 80g silver medal (with certificate and box, mintage 999 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3440162-detail.shtml ($114.68)

PRC, 2014, Guanyin Offering Water 2oz silver proof medal in NGC holder (graded PF70 Ultra Cameo, with certificate and box, mintage 199 pieces)
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http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3439642-detail.shtml ($219.39)

PRC, 2010, Classic Gardens-Yuyuan Yangshan Tang 2oz silver proof medal in NGC holder (graded PF68, with certificate and original box, mintage 2,010 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3435820-detail.shtml ($122.92)

PRC, 2014, 1st Macau International Coins & Precious Metals Expo 1.5g gold + 30g silver bi-metallic proof medal in NGC holder (graded PF69 Ultra Cameo, with certificate, mintage 300 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3399745-detail.shtml ($124.65)

PRC, 2014, Shanghai Mint, Classic Garden-Summer Palace Corridor 2oz silver medal (diameter 40mm, with certificate and original box, mintage 1,500 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3392542-detail.shtml ($151.21)

PRC, 2014, 2nd Panda Coin Collection Expo-Giant Panda 2oz piedfort silver medal in NGC holder (graded MS70, with certificate and original box, mintage 299 pieces).

http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3388897-detail.shtml ($169.53)






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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #290 on: October 14, 2015, 01:43:00 AM »
Time now is 1.33AM EST USA. Can't log unto those sites. Have always had problems logging unto many China based sites. What is the best time to log on? Thanks.
I have no problem accessing them right now.

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #291 on: October 14, 2015, 02:02:04 AM »
I have no problem accessing them right now.

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #292 on: October 14, 2015, 02:05:27 AM »
It will be minted next year.

Thank you Frank.
This was a change of plans? Did you hear any discussion on how this came about?

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #293 on: October 14, 2015, 02:12:22 AM »
Thank you Frank.
This was a change of plans? Did you hear any discussion on how this came about?
Did I say that Zhuozhengyuan would come this year? The Mountain Resort was released in June, and so it is not likely another will be released this year.

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #294 on: October 14, 2015, 02:24:48 AM »
No but you did refer to it as next and the release of information on the Geyuan looks like it is now next?
Please forgive me if I am confused or have assumed incorrectly.

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« Reply #295 on: October 14, 2015, 02:30:39 AM »
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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #296 on: October 14, 2015, 02:31:15 AM »
Summer Palace Gate medal PF69; $208.95 on Zhaoonline (http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-3450840-detail.shtml), $289 (eBay#161825929291) and $315 (eBay#161844643394).

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #297 on: October 14, 2015, 08:44:17 AM »
No but you did refer to it as next and the release of information on the Geyuan looks like it is now next?
Please forgive me if I am confused or have assumed incorrectly.

I believe that you were correct in assuming that the next planned medal in the classical garden series was going to be the Humble Administrator's Garden of Suzhou. I however assumed that it was going to be released in 2016 as there was no information stating otherwise.

This new medal that just burst into the scene, Guyuan Garden, appears to have been planned for the coin exchange and plugged into the Classical Garden theme as a matter of convenience or on second thoughts. It is still a welcome addition to this impressive medal collection that educates and extols China's historical prominence in the design and utilization of open spaces for relaxation and leisure in addition to other State and cultural uses.
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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #298 on: October 14, 2015, 12:33:42 PM »
I believe that you were correct in assuming that the next planned medal in the classical garden series was going to be the Humble Administrator's Garden of Suzhou. I however assumed that it was going to be released in 2016 as there was no information stating otherwise.

This new medal that just burst into the scene, Guyuan Garden, appears to have been planned for the coin exchange and plugged into the Classical Garden theme as a matter of convenience or on second thoughts.

Let us hope they put the time and effort in minting this that the series deserves, I'd hate to see it tainted with a rush job on someone's marketing scheme.  :001_rolleyes:

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #299 on: October 14, 2015, 01:09:13 PM »
Let us hope they put the time and effort in minting this that the series deserves, I'd hate to see it tainted with a rush job on someone's marketing scheme.  :001_rolleyes:

That's always the risk with such mintages. Only time will tell. For now the photos could give a hint of how complex or well thought out the design is and whether it adds something new to what the medal series is trying to convey. Is the Guyuan Garden important enough to merit a medal; anything new? I'll have a more detailed look at the medal later in the day although I am no expert in art appraisal!
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