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chinese lunar prices heating up
« on: September 04, 2014, 03:32:55 PM »
Has anyone else here noticed the prices on the newer silver lunar coins have really been going up . Even in the past weeks they are becoming either unavailable or much higher prices. I would like to get others thoughts here that like the lunar coins , is this just a temporary trend or are they really gaining some interest that is here to stay?

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2014, 11:36:39 PM »
They are definitely becoming harder to buy.
I am not certain if they are being bought up or if sellers are just not selling them

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2014, 01:06:36 PM »
Yeah it could be both , also i think prices were getting so cheap on many that now they are just getting back to what they should be. I could be wrong but I think the 2014 horse may prove in the future to be very sought after for the series. With the high mintage's I still cant figure why the ox are so expensive and hard to get.

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2014, 06:16:25 PM »
Absolutely ,I graded  a bunch of 2014 colorized horses and scallops when they where first released( I believe I was the first submission) i barely sold the pf69 for cost now they are going for 3 times that apx

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2014, 11:46:36 PM »
If anyone has seen a 2000 - 2002 Fan ms70 I would be interested to know about it....

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2014, 04:59:55 AM »
Some of my Chinese friends have told me that the Lunar Clorized Ox has doubled in value in the local Chinese market during the past month

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2014, 09:18:57 PM »
Some of my Chinese friends have told me that the Lunar Clorized Ox has doubled in value in the local Chinese market during the past month
So what is the price now?
A year ago someone offered me $750 for the coin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO3yA5RKlUQ
I have no idea if it was high or not at the time but didn't proceed with the deal.
Now I see this lot 351157410730 on eBay, with best offer below $1200 accepted (closed deal range $950-$1200) ... that is quite a rise.

I believe I have read somewhere on this forum that a lot of colored ox coins were bought by some Chinese for his son.

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2014, 11:56:44 PM »
Last price I heard was USD 1750 for the ox.
And that's an OMP...no idea what a ms70 would go for but it's suddenly impossible to find

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2014, 12:32:29 AM »
At NGC, 2009 color Ox has 60 graded in 69, 30 in 70. As far as NGC graded silver lunar coins are concerned, thats not as scarce as 2003 round Lunar Goat (22x69, 4x70), and 2002 Lunar Horse (20x69,3x70). Although the goat has appreciated (OMP $1098, ebay # 371125756586), the horse still seems relatively inexpensive, OMP w/coa as low as $448 (ebay #251636162755)

« Last Edit: September 07, 2014, 01:16:21 AM by davidt3251 »

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2014, 02:02:27 AM »
 
Last price I heard was USD 1750 for the ox.
And that's an OMP...no idea what a ms70 would go for but it's suddenly impossible to find

6.6k euro

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I believe I have read somewhere on this forum that a lot of colored ox coins were bought by some Chinese for his son.

 N67

I believe I have read somewhere on this forum that a lot of colored dog coins were bought by some Chinese for his son.

« Last Edit: September 07, 2014, 02:34:03 AM by wg »

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2014, 06:43:38 AM »
I dont know why prices of this coins went up now, but I made 7x my investment on them so I thought it was time to sell.
I hope new owner will make same amount of profit I made. But I think with 100.000 mintage there is not much room for gaining in price. But we will see in next years.




@wg: this PF70 looks very familiar to me :D :D

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2014, 06:49:05 AM »
I dont know why prices of this coins went up now, but I made 7x my investment on them so I thought it was time to sell.
I hope new owner will make same amount of profit I made. But I think with 100.000 mintage there is not much room for gaining in price. But we will see in next years.




@wg: this PF70 looks very familiar to me :D :D
well, good for you.
as of mintage, like with many other MCCs 100 000 stated mintage easily can be 10 000 real mintage, and with the price of raw on ebay about $1000 it can be even 2000.

P.S. my paper profit is more than 7x, so I can keep the coin for the next 7 years until the next year of the ox. I believe strong hands have the same intentions

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2014, 07:27:15 AM »
Be very wary of fakes my friendS! ,know who you are buying from ,when prices rise here come the counterfeits ,this coin has very high quality fakes already out there

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2014, 07:09:40 PM »
Be very wary of fakes my friendS! ,know who you are buying from ,when prices rise here come the counterfeits ,this coin has very high quality fakes already out there

The 2006 Colored Dog has been over $1000 for over a year (in OMP), yet there has been no flood of fakes. Why would you expect the Ox to be different? To me, the Ox looks harder to fake.

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2014, 07:19:15 PM »
The 2006 Colored Dog has been over $1000 for over a year (in OMP), yet there has been no flood of fakes. Why would you expect the Ox to be different? To me, the Ox looks harder to fake.

I have personally seen 3 the first one I bought was so good i sent it to NGC ,the other 2 I knew where fake from my first bad experience I believe WG posted some pics of fake 2010 tiger colorized on this board and it is my assumption the fake tigers and ox where all produced by the same folks at the same time and where being sold by Russian and folks in eastern Europe, if someone offers you a raw coin from that part of the world be careful   

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2014, 10:28:51 PM »
ebay #121387762800, from Poland.

In your opinion, do you think it is fake?

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2014, 11:17:00 PM »
The coin itself I think is authentic , the image seems digitized or something , but I wouldnt touch this given the seller has no real feedback, and apparently anyone can list items with any picture they want, the price seems about right but thats it .. 

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2014, 06:48:46 AM »
David ,the coin is authentic ,but like what silverstar says the picture is suspect! the tiger and ox fakes have been around for a couple of years it was at least 18 month,s ago when i won one in an auction on e bay out of Russia (the one I sent to NGC ) I got lucky and my credit card company protected me (pay pal was pissed they ate it!) that seller is from Poland and these fakes (mine was an ox) are floating around there and are sure to resurface .MAYBE WG could re post those tiger pictures they where awesome? they clearly give you an idea of the quality of the counterfeit,If I am buying that coin today it would be graded or from a very well known dealer who has had it  directly from the mint like one of the big shanghai china dealers ,there prices are steep but they have authentic coins and will stand behind them

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2014, 07:15:08 AM »
there is something with the fish` mouth that is easy to tell if the coin is quality copy or authentic

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2014, 07:34:28 AM »
jc888888888

 weight fake 31,5 g

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2014, 11:52:58 AM »
The Chinese Colorized Lunars seem to be increasing rapidly in price 
Anyone know what is going on ?

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2014, 06:23:17 PM »
lack of supply .... I think those mintage figures even on the most common where never even closed to produced

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2014, 07:07:17 PM »
The Chinese Colorized Lunars seem to be increasing rapidly in price 
Anyone know what is going on ?
lack of supply .... I think those mintage figures even on the most common where never even closed to produced

Because they are now all unavailable, neatly stacked in wassergeist's closet?  ;)

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=6487.msg39406#msg39406

Admittedly, I haven't been following the colorized lunars at all, and I have never owned one.  Having said that, there are so many bargains in other areas of the Chinese coin market right now, that I can't imagine paying such a massive premium for such coins.  I will definitely, however, be keeping an eye out for any that are for sale close to spot price in coin shops or pawn shops  :001_smile:

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2014, 07:10:57 PM »
WG,s stash  is just mind boggling every time a see anther photo!   brilliant!

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2014, 08:39:53 PM »
Admittedly, I haven't been following the colorized lunars at all, and I have never owned one.  Having said that, there are so many bargains in other areas of the Chinese coin market right now, that I can't imagine paying such a massive premium for such coins. 
A great strategy.  For me this is the time to look for the elusive varieties that's being sold cheaply!

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2014, 09:40:22 AM »
lack of supply .... I think those mintage figures even on the most common where never even closed to produced


Low actual mintage even on new issue?     A past post said the China Mint has that information.   Will we ever know actual mintage? ......

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2014, 12:48:55 PM »
It would be nice if Peter Anthony could cover lunars in his next edition

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2014, 07:21:57 PM »
Me too !! Peter??   I  will tell you my opinion ,these coins where made in very limited amounts  , the 2014 horse was sold out to dealers until the mint produced more the china mint produces limited amounts and takes pre orders ,no sales no production. can they go back and produce more ? I guess ?? ............ look on ebay colorized coins 2010 tiger ,2011 rabbit ,2012 dragon ,2014 horse  between 0 and 5 of each for sale, AT $1500 a pop for a colorized 2009 ox these coins would be all over for sale @ those levels if 100,000 or even 20% of that where produced......... there are way more 2002 G50y panda,s for sale than that ox at any given moment , BTW I am a buyer of colorized  2011 rabbits ,2012 dragons and 2014 horses if anyone want to sell graded or ungraded PM me if you have them for sale with prices ...........  OH THEORY NUMBER 2 WHICH IS VERY PLAUSIBLE ALSO WG is hoarding them all LOL

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2014, 10:17:41 PM »
I have heard that the upsurge in the Chinese market for the newer lunar series coins is due to several large art markets that are now including these lunar coins and probably have alot of advertising associated with them. My personal opinion is that they are very nice looking coins both in design and shapes. I think with so many world mints producing Chinese zodiac or "lunar" coins in the past few years they have  really gained alot of interest in the world inside and outside of China, and it is only natural that people would want to collect the original coins from a country of the cultural origin. I would be like if many mints started producing the Moose or polar bear coins , still the Canadian version would be the most sought after. It is also a series that collectors can collect for 12 years with an end goal in sight but still a new design to look forward to each year . Further there is quite a few varieties with sizes and shapes but consistent and not too many too flood the market and turn collectors off. Not too sure about the mintage numbers it is an interesting point that they may not be correct but also if you consider what the collector base in China alone might be the mintages are rather small . I do note JC888.. s post though that the colored ox for example is getting so expensive that it would seem that if there were that many minted if they were spread out among collectors there would be many more available on the market .
I too would like to see Peter Anthony dedicate a section on the lunar series , that would be cool...
Halfway through the series now I really hope they keep the design and sizes consistent through the year of the rat for a nice completed set.

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2014, 10:58:55 PM »
I can visualize the talking point of the advertiser:  A precious metal lunar coin is the obvious gift for that new arrival of a grandchild.  It combines the idea of financial secure precious metal and the popular lunar motif gift idea. 

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2014, 02:35:12 AM »
..  is just mind boggling every time a see anther photo! ..

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2014, 03:49:39 AM »
amazing.
Does anyone know when the 2015 China Lunars are being released ?

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2014, 05:55:03 AM »
soon , usually by mid October

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2014, 05:58:15 AM »
FORGET my first theory ,I have changed my mind:) WG simply has them all:)

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2014, 05:58:32 AM »
thanks for the pictures WG!

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2014, 09:19:10 AM »
WG, you are a true MCC hog!    Does the China mint contact you for supply?   Amazing collection that requires a forklift to move it.......keep posting photos.....

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2014, 11:41:19 AM »
Thanks WG ! Now I have to clean the drool off my keyboard again!!

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2014, 04:34:26 PM »
Does anyone know when the 2015 China Lunars are being released ?
October it is.  See the information provided by xuhong and my translation of it.  http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=18.msg62606#msg62606

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2014, 05:31:14 PM »
IMO, the actual mintages of lunar coins are the planned mintages posted by China Mint. The lunar series are very popular inside China, especially, the colored lunar. China Mint had to increase the mintage of colored lunar in the last few years to satisfy the market demand and less than 10% of the coins were distributed outside China. Because of their popularity and profit margin, they become the prime target of counterfeiters. Usually, the fake colored lunar will show up in the market place within two weeks of issuance of the coin by China Mint. The fake set usually has a very similar box and COA as genuine Mint issued. Just remember every popular coin/medal issued by China Mint has fake produced by counterfeiter.   

Here are the links to taobao.com inside China for colored lunar from 2006 to 2014. Except the few genuine sets show in the first page, all other listings in the next several pages are fake, based on the pictures and price.

http://s.taobao.com/search?initiative_id=staobaoz_20140928&js=1&stats_click=search_radio_all%253A1&q=2006+1%B0%BB%CB%BE%B2%CA%D2%F8%B1%D2

http://s.taobao.com/search?initiative_id=staobaoz_20140928&js=1&stats_click=search_radio_all%253A1&q=2007+1%B0%BB%CB%BE%B2%CA%D2%F8%B1%D2

http://s.taobao.com/search?initiative_id=staobaoz_20140928&js=1&stats_click=search_radio_all%253A1&q=2008+1%B0%BB%CB%BE%B2%CA%D2%F8%B1%D2&tab=all&bcoffset=3&s=44

http://s.taobao.com/search?initiative_id=staobaoz_20140928&js=1&stats_click=search_radio_all%253A1&q=2009+1%B0%BB%CB%BE%B2%CA%D2%F8%B1%D2&tab=all&bcoffset=4&s=0

http://s.taobao.com/search?initiative_id=staobaoz_20140928&js=1&stats_click=search_radio_all%253A1&q=2010+1%B0%BB%CB%BE%B2%CA%D2%F8%B1%D2&tab=all&bcoffset=1&s=0

http://s.taobao.com/search?initiative_id=staobaoz_20140928&js=1&stats_click=search_radio_all%253A1&q=2012+1%B0%BB%CB%BE%B2%CA%D2%F8%B1%D2

http://s.taobao.com/search?initiative_id=staobaoz_20140928&js=1&stats_click=search_radio_all%253A1&q=2013+1%B0%BB%CB%BE%B2%CA%D2%F8%B1%D2&tab=all&bcoffset=4&s=0

http://s.taobao.com/search?initiative_id=staobaoz_20140928&js=1&stats_click=search_radio_all%253A1&q=2014+1%B0%BB%CB%BE%B2%CA%D2%F8%B1%D2


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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2014, 09:19:15 AM »
I have a hard time getting past that theory of full mintage and Chinese collectors buying these colorized coins up if  the full mintage is actually out there and they are hoarding. I will use 4 examples  2009 ox virtually none for sale a minuscule handful of genuine coins $1500 ?? maybe steep but put one up on ebay for $1000 it will sell in 5 minutes 2010 tiger the same thing @ $600 5 minutes, so now if you go to the rabbit more than a double ,THE LOWLY snake double ,here is the best example with virtually none for sale 220,000 supposed mintage 2014 horse ,I am trying to buy 10 @ around 250usd spot free .I CANT FIND THEM ...that is 2.5 times the issue price for a coin that was minted a year ago in a spiraling down MCC market with a mintage of 220,000  ........ is it possible ??  that all these coins are out there and no one is taking a profit?? that is far fetched to me........ apmex none ,modern coin mart none, panda america none??  Shanghai dealers either looking for crazy money and even if you want to pay 350 for a coin they don't have 10 ,the coins are white spotted ,or they simply don't have them, I have been looking and asking.

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2014, 12:17:15 PM »
October it is.  See the information provided by xuhong and my translation of it.  http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=18.msg62606#msg62606

Whoa, wait in this translation it says 2016 year of the monkey?? are they just skipping over the 2015 year of the goat?? am I missing something?

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2014, 09:14:26 PM »
Ebay 161040493484   09 1 oz color Ox OMP  $1,532.......

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2014, 10:01:52 PM »
Whoa, wait in this translation it says 2016 year of the monkey?? are they just skipping over the 2015 year of the goat?? am I missing something?
Oh i get it duh they are announcing next years lunar releases..

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2014, 10:20:16 PM »
I have a hard time getting past that theory of full mintage and Chinese collectors buying these colorized coins up if  the full mintage is actually out there and they are hoarding. I will use 4 examples  2009 ox virtually none for sale a minuscule handful of genuine coins $1500 ?? maybe steep but put one up on ebay for $1000 it will sell in 5 minutes 2010 tiger the same thing @ $600 5 minutes, so now if you go to the rabbit more than a double ,THE LOWLY snake double ,here is the best example with virtually none for sale 220,000 supposed mintage 2014 horse ,I am trying to buy 10 @ around 250usd spot free .I CANT FIND THEM ...that is 2.5 times the issue price for a coin that was minted a year ago in a spiraling down MCC market with a mintage of 220,000  ........ is it possible ??  that all these coins are out there and no one is taking a profit?? that is far fetched to me........ apmex none ,modern coin mart none, panda america none??  Shanghai dealers either looking for crazy money and even if you want to pay 350 for a coin they don't have 10 ,the coins are white spotted ,or they simply don't have them, I have been looking and asking.

There are more than 16 MM new born every year inside China. It only needs 2% of parent/grandparent to buy lunar coin as gift for their new baby to exhaust yearly lunar coins produced by China Mint. Those lunar coins bought by parent/grandparent will not be in circulation for a long time. Earlier 2008 was the time of starting bull market for MCC and 2009 ox silver 1 oz. which was issued in Nov. 2008 would be the nature first selection as gift to buy by parent/grandparent. They were under $100 and affordable for average mid-income family at this price between later 2008 and earlier 2009. The price of colored lunar coins are always comparable or higher than flower lunar, even the mintage of colored lunar (100,000) is more than flower lunar (60,000).
 
It also be noted that MCC market is closely related to China stock market. Chinese stock market went up about 100% between mid-2008 to mid-2011, so was the MCC market. Last week, Chinese stock market reached 14 months high and MCC market also made very nice upward movement during last two months. The shortage of colored horse in the market place may not be temporary, even the mintage is 220,000, unless the Chinese stock market has a significant correction in the next few months or gold silver price drops another 10%, due to the strong dollar.

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2014, 05:06:09 AM »
I wish I could get my hands on some reasonably priced colorized lunars.
I think many of us a ready to jump on the 2015's as soon as they are released.


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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2014, 05:53:32 AM »
I am already listening to Chinese dealers say the goat issue is going to be expensive:) ............. 

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2014, 11:22:00 AM »
I wish I could get my hands on some reasonably priced colorized lunars.
I think many of us a ready to jump on the 2015's as soon as they are released.



The silver 1oz round Horse is still available for $150.

I think many buyers flock to silver 2/3 oz scallops and 1oz color lunars, but have you noticed how hard it is to buy silver round 1oz Lunars of earlier years (back to 1998 Tiger, the start of the 1oz round Lunar series)?

Prior to the strong appreciation of the 2009 Color Ox, and aside from the other expensive Color Lunar the 2006 Dog, the other post 2000-Lunar that rose to lofty prices has been the 1oz 2003 round Goat. I think in NGC 69 the Ox is most expensive, followed by the round 2003 Goat, using current prices.

Buyers may buy the scallop for low mintage, and colorized Lunars for attractive design, but assuming we may never know the official mintage numbers, are the 1oz rounds as plentiful as warranting a less than half price discount (current OMP) to the Color Lunar Horse?

You should still be able too find a spotfree sheet of 1oz round Horse Lunars for around $1500. Solid investment IMHO.

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2014, 02:36:02 PM »
All Lunar Horse Coins in 1oz silver size are available and easy to buy, dealers are making money by selling coins not by collecting.
Due to high prices buyer are turning their back on China lunar coins, there is little demand on overpriced coins when POS is diving in such depth.I have stopped buying new China Lunar coins because i feel bad when i got to pay 100€ for common mass production coins, my last purchased Lunar coins was colored Snake set but i waited for low prices, i was lucky and able to buy coloured Snake set for 220€ and that was maximum i was prepared to pay for.I like design of China lunar coins but i still must to work for my money and mintage don't justifies high prices, so i decided to simply wait for better prices or i dont purchase those coins at all, its all on distribution, if they want to sell coins prices must go dawn, otherwise no business.

Coloured Ox 1oz coin is part of first series colored round China 1oz silver coins, second series starts with Tiger but what about end of second coloured series, are there going to be another Ox design or is first lunar colored series collection with only 11 coins ?
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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2014, 03:19:36 PM »
We can try to rationalize all we want.... the reality is that I can't find a colorized Ox 70 at any reasonable price and the other lunars are remaining strong. 
If only the Pandas would have followed the same route.....

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2014, 05:27:25 AM »
What is reasonable price for you for PF70 Lunar Ox color today ?

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2014, 11:27:37 AM »
We can try to rationalize all we want.... the reality is that I can't find a colorized Ox 70 at any reasonable price and the other lunars are remaining strong. 
If only the Pandas would have followed the same route.....

It was always believed by a number of collectors that the Pandas were the export product and the Lunars would do well inside China. Its surprising how strong demand has been for the later Lunars, while the earlier Lunars starting in 1981 dont appreciate. Even if you argue the Color Lunars are doing the appreciation, thats not entirely accurate. The 2006 Color Dog hasnt appreciated like the 2009 Ox.

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2014, 11:28:44 AM »
Good Luck even finding one in PF 70 , and the round ox in PF 70 is impossible to find at any price I have been looking for years!

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2014, 11:57:06 AM »


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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2014, 11:58:26 AM »
I'm jealous

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2014, 01:18:18 PM »
It was always believed by a number of collectors that the Pandas were the export product and the Lunars would do well inside China. Its surprising how strong demand has been for the later Lunars, while the earlier Lunars starting in 1981 dont appreciate. Even if you argue the Color Lunars are doing the appreciation, thats not entirely accurate. The 2006 Color Dog hasnt appreciated like the 2009 Ox.

Agreed ,the 2006 Dog has been a fairly expensive coin for a while but has not gone down or up much ,I think the ox has kinda peaked........  I am mystified by the price action on the 2014 colored horse and even the 2011 rabbit and 2013 snake   a year ago you could buy a 2013 colored snake for less than issue apx $75-80 usd  now a  150usd  avg price out there .

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2014, 01:25:39 PM »
The silver 1oz round Horse is still available for $150.

I think many buyers flock to silver 2/3 oz scallops and 1oz color lunars, but have you noticed how hard it is to buy silver round 1oz Lunars of earlier years (back to 1998 Tiger, the start of the 1oz round Lunar series)?

Prior to the strong appreciation of the 2009 Color Ox, and aside from the other expensive Color Lunar the 2006 Dog, the other post 2000-Lunar that rose to lofty prices has been the 1oz 2003 round Goat. I think in NGC 69 the Ox is most expensive, followed by the round 2003 Goat, using current prices.

Buyers may buy the scallop for low mintage, and colorized Lunars for attractive design, but assuming we may never know the official mintage numbers, are the 1oz rounds as plentiful as warranting a less than half price discount (current OMP) to the Color Lunar Horse?

You should still be able too find a spotfree sheet of 1oz round Horse Lunars for around $1500. Solid investment IMHO.

I think they are a great investment at that price the 2002 round horse $600??  Raw

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2014, 11:13:42 PM »
I think the design of the 2002 round horse is great. Very edgy. It was one of the first post-2000 lunars I bought. How about the 2000 round Dragon? Its one of the more expensive lunars, despite Dragon years supposedly being much higher mintage.


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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #58 on: October 02, 2014, 10:29:28 PM »
If any member is interested in seeing pictures of some fake lunar coins, visit the following threads.

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=634.0

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=357.0

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=8844.0

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2014, 05:43:23 PM »
Just noticed something the 2001 colorized snake s10y  is the only coin without a reeded edge in the series .........it has a smooth edge and the words year of the snake stamped all the way around the coin   interesting does anyone have any info on this?

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #60 on: October 15, 2014, 05:49:52 AM »

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #62 on: October 05, 2015, 10:56:33 AM »
soon , usually by mid October

i can not wait any longer :bored:


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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #63 on: April 27, 2017, 04:14:13 AM »
Some of my Chinese friends have told me that the Lunar Clorized Ox has doubled in value in the local Chinese market during the past month

The price of the pf70 lunar clorized silver ox has dropped.

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #64 on: April 27, 2017, 10:07:08 AM »
The price of the pf70 lunar clorized silver ox has dropped.

I added the red line btw. Last week or two, the NGC70 (black dot), has picked up a bit.

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2017, 03:03:55 AM »
Anyone know what the 2018 Lunars will look like?

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2017, 02:07:04 PM »
Love the colorised
Thank you

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #68 on: November 20, 2017, 07:51:30 PM »
 Where can you pick them up at when they are released?

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2017, 07:58:23 PM »

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Re: chinese lunar prices heating up
« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2017, 03:57:55 AM »


The entire year's lunar coinage was displayed at BICE.

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