Topic: Chart of the Week #1: 1983-1985 27g silver panda coins in NGC PF69 condition

[ccl]

Hi, if you guys like this sort of thing, we can maybe get into the habit of sharing more like this. Let me know what you think.

[aragog]

that is amazing piece of information and gives a good view on completed transactions.

[ccl]

thanks aragog

[Butch]

Such charts are never a bad idea.  We should do these for the most common series, at least.  Such as pandas in all metals, whether proof or not.

[Tao-Panda]

Thank you very much, ccl.
Thanks a lot in advance for sharing more !

[dennisma77]

the overall trend is going down :

[jc888888888]

love it

[poconopenn]

Very interesting chart, indeed. Thanks for sharing.

1983-1985 proof pandas are considered as key dates for silver panda series. Based on the charts, the frequency of transaction is more than 10 per year for 1983 and 15 per year for 1984 and 1985. This suggests that they may not be as scarce as some key date gold pandas.

If it is possible, please chart the data based on the different regions, US, Asia and EU, to examine if there is price differences in these three locations. It was my impression, due to the distribution channels of earlier MCC, the price of earlier MCC was lowest in EU and highest in Asia prior to 2011, before the peak of last MCC market circle. Chinese dealers have been actively buying earlier MCC in EU and US during last few years, the price differences may not be there anymore.
 
Since grading MCC in EU and Asia was not popular prior to 2012 and your chart is based on PR69, there is good chance the regional chart, due to very few data points, may not give any indication of price difference for pre-2012 transactions.       

[ccl]

If it is possible, please chart the data based on the different regions, US, Asia and EU, to examine if there is price differences in these three locations.
 
Since grading MCC in EU and Asia was not popular prior to 2012 and your chart is based on PR69, there is good chance the regional chart, due to very few data points, may not give any indication of price difference for pre-2012 transactions.        

This would become apparent using the data tables on the site but we do not have a regional display option for charts.

How do you think it could work?

On a similar note, CCF members might be interested to hear that we can now tell if a graded coin has sold before, for example, if it sold in U.S then in China. It is still in beta testing but we will make this available to Expert licensees in due course.

We are also busy expanding our coverage of Chinese coin types to include silver dollars, circulating coins and more.

[SANDAC]

ccl,
You may've read the debates on CCF regarding price differentials between PCGS and NGC graded coins.  Can you sort your data to show NGC's price vs PCGS's at MS/PF 69?  Thanks.

[ccl]

Yes you can

[ccl]

ccl,
You may've read the debates on CCF regarding price differentials between PCGS and NGC graded coins.  Can you sort your data to show NGC's price vs PCGS's at MS/PF 69?  Thanks.

Here we have isolated the 1985 27g silver panda

[Tao-Panda]

Thank you ccl.
Of course, there are many more NGC graded (and sold) ones but average price is about the same for both.

[ccl]

Any private sales (without a sale record on the internet) we can't track but anything of public record we probably have. Our Expert users see the latest sales every 2 days on the Timeline where everything is in chronological order.

Another chart coming tomorrow.