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Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« on: July 25, 2014, 02:22:33 PM »
I know that this is the easiest lunar set to complete.
But it seems to be the only complete PF70 in the NGC registry.  
There must be many more.

I thought I would post it and open the floor to any comments.


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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2014, 03:09:01 PM »
Excellent set.  Congrats.

It would be great, IMHO, if all the labels are similar (I see one is not the same as the others).  Even better also if the cert # is in sequence.


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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2014, 03:10:36 PM »
Excellent set.  Congrats.

It would be great, IMHO, if all the labels are similar (I see one is not the same as the others).  Even better also if the cert # is in sequence.



If I submit to NGC for reholder...do you know if they can number sequentially?

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2014, 03:13:17 PM »
Would also having all of the COA's influence the value?
Is there any way to protect the COA's in a slab as well ?

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2014, 03:14:58 PM »
I do not know.  Unless you are quirky like me, I would not bother resubmitting and dealing with NGC cost.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2014, 03:17:14 PM »
Actually I am a bit of a perfectionist,  If I can add a pedigree I would...but I don't think the set is large enough for pedigree attribution

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2014, 03:20:48 PM »
I personally would pay a bit more if CoA is included.  That's just me.

Interesting question on the CoA protection.  Wonder if CGC will do CoA?

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2014, 03:21:42 PM »
I personally would pay a bit more if CoA is included.  That's just me.

Interesting question on the CoA protection.  Wonder if CGC will do CoA?

CGC ??

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2014, 03:25:33 PM »

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2014, 03:30:10 PM »
Thank you
Very interesting.
I have just shot out a email and will let you know what they say

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2014, 03:40:52 PM »
The width of COA after folded is the same width as NGC and PCGS slabs. The folded COA can be stored in a self sealed plastic bag, such as the following eBay listing, together with the encased coin. This will give you an extra protection of the coin and keep the COA next to the coin.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/50p-OPP-Self-Adhesive-Seal-Plastic-Bags-for-NGC-PCGS-COIN-1oz-and-Less-than-1-oz-/221481979995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33915ad05b

I do not know and have never done any business with this seller.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2014, 03:44:26 PM »
The width of COA after folded is the same width as NGC and PCGS slabs. The folded COA can be stored in a self sealed plastic bag, such as the following eBay listing, together with the encased coin. This will give you an extra protection of the coin and keep the COA next to the coin.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/50p-OPP-Self-Adhesive-Seal-Plastic-Bags-for-NGC-PCGS-COIN-1oz-and-Less-than-1-oz-/221481979995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33915ad05b

I do not know and have never done any business with this seller.

Thanks
I have asked NGC if they can actually slab the CoA's in a separate CGC holder.
I will tell you what they say

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2014, 05:54:47 PM »
If I submit to NGC for reholder...do you know if they can number sequentially?

G, yes they will # them sequentially just put them all on one invoice and put a big note on it, BTW your comments about easiest set LOL I beg to differ from rooster to ox is not as easy to grade 70 as anyone who has tried knows:)  nice set my friend! I had a weak set up in registry yours blows mine away:)

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2014, 05:32:38 AM »
Indeed
NGC Confirmed they can number sequentially if I submit for reholder

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2014, 06:12:27 AM »
G,That would be a worthwhile en devour IMHO ,when you are done it might be the only complete sequentially numbered pf70 set in the whole registry ! very cool ! and besides the cool factor IMHO it very well could at least add the $250 + - invested to the value of the set x2  IMHO ,it does not get more perfect than that:)  these lunar coins right now are extremely undervalued , I just upgraded my pig and dog in my set to pf70 for half price of what the the 2 coins where selling for a year ago.Some Panda enthusiast kinda frown on the MCC lunar,s but I think they are missing the boat:) if mainland China is the future market with its huge population of collector's as some folk,s think what we need to understand is lunar coins are at least as popular there as panda's or possibly even more popular just my 2 cents.  If some one wants to debate that just look at the inventory of one of the biggest MCC dealer's in the world xu-hong it is chock full of every rare lunar imaginable (actually it is chocked full of everything imaginable:)

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2014, 06:27:02 AM »
J
I will number hem sequentially when the series comes to an end...
I am afraid the 2015 will come out and then I may need to renumber them again?
Any idea when the 2005 Scallop series will end ?
But the way, I have the COA's for each coin as well.

I am also very close to completing the 1993 Scallop series as well as the fan series.
The 1993 series would be worth renumbering now as this series has ended.

I also prefer the Lunars to the Pandas and I am certain there is a lot of money to be made on Lunars in the near future as they are much rarer and quite undervalued relative to their rarity.

By the way, I'm also a strong believer in gold 1/10oz Pandas all ms70.
Very close to completing a set there as well.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2014, 06:41:49 AM »
Well the 2005 scallop lunar set should end in 2016  ,we have the goat/sheep 2015, and then 2016 monkey and that is 12:) ,
I am working on the colorized 1998 to 2009 set :) I have a few that I have to grade but the 1998 tiger and the 2006 dog are tough ,especially that dog :) that is $1000 coin easy in gradable condition.........  our good friend in China is working on it for me:)

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2014, 07:01:36 AM »
I understand.
I am having difficulty getting the scallop 2001 and 2002 in pf70 as well.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2014, 11:20:41 AM »
Indeed
NGC Confirmed they can number sequentially if I submit for reholder

Nice!  IMHO, I would resubmit when I have the complete 12.

Hmm.  Will NGC allow you to request a particular certificate # if you prove you got the certificate # previous sequence?

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2014, 11:22:53 AM »
Exactly,
But I still need 2 years of coins....need to be patient

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2014, 11:25:44 AM »
J
I will number hem sequentially when the series comes to an end...
I am afraid the 2015 will come out and then I may need to renumber them again?
Any idea when the 2005 Scallop series will end ?
But the way, I have the COA's for each coin as well.

I am also very close to completing the 1993 Scallop series as well as the fan series.
The 1993 series would be worth renumbering now as this series has ended.

I also prefer the Lunars to the Pandas and I am certain there is a lot of money to be made on Lunars in the near future as they are much rarer and quite undervalued relative to their rarity.

By the way, I'm also a strong believer in gold 1/10oz Pandas all ms70.
Very close to completing a set there as well.

Good to see all top grade...

1993 - Scallop series - 70's? That would be a tough one to assemble.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2014, 11:27:19 AM »
Good to see all top grade...

1993 - Scallop series - 70's? That would be a tough one to assemble.

Yes 1993 Scallop
Very close to finishing a pf70 series

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2014, 11:32:23 AM »
Well the 2005 scallop lunar set should end in 2016  ,we have the goat/sheep 2015, and then 2016 monkey and that is 12:) ,
I am working on the colorized 1998 to 2009 set :) I have a few that I have to grade but the 1998 tiger and the 2006 dog are tough ,especially that dog :) that is $1000 coin easy in gradable condition.........  our good friend in China is working on it for me:)
Not many is showing up for sell on the 09 colored ox either?

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2014, 11:34:48 AM »
In my opinion, all lunars are selling quietly.
There seem to be less and less 70's up for sale...where have they all gone?
The Fan Lunars are also proving to be very hard to assemble.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2014, 11:41:45 AM »
Not many is showing up for sell on the 09 colored ox either?

The 09 ox is a very pricey coin in 69 grade NGC a year ago  it was a $600 coin today even in what most would call a flat to down MCC market you would be hard pressed to find one for less than $900-$1100 usd   the Dog is similar in price ,the tiger $500 to $700, there was some discussion a while back about colored MCC and in particular lunars  price wise they have on the whole appreciated substantially in the last 18 month's ,in comparison a 2000 silver mirror panda has gone down apx 25 to 35% , Chinese love colored coins:)  

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2014, 11:42:48 AM »
In my opinion, all lunars are selling quietly.
There seem to be less and less 70's up for sale...where have they all gone?
The Fan Lunars are also proving to be very hard to assemble.

Absolutely!

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2014, 04:12:36 PM »
Informed and rational discussion of MCC by serious collectors and dealers.
This is what makes this forum great, a big thank you to all concerned!
 N48

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2014, 08:55:48 PM »
G, I forgot to mention if you pm or e mail me a list of fans and scallops  you are looking for : I can keep an eye out ,fans I might have some duplicates ..............

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #28 on: July 30, 2014, 03:00:15 AM »
G, I forgot to mention if you pm or e mail me a list of fans and scallops  you are looking for : I can keep an eye out ,fans I might have some duplicates ..............

I have sent in several OMP to NGC.
I will let you know what I am missing once I get the results for these.
It's getting expensive to assemble a pf70 set so I am taking it step by step

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #29 on: July 30, 2014, 06:14:07 AM »
G, you have inspired me with your great set , I pulled my lunars from the bank vault just to look at them :)  now i am all charged up to complete my colorized set!:)

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #30 on: July 30, 2014, 06:21:00 AM »
which set is it?
1998 - 2009 or 2010 to present ?

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #31 on: July 30, 2014, 06:30:04 AM »
1998 to 2009   I am looking for tiger ,dog and rooster  colorized on the older set, NGC is running another grading fair in Shanghai @ the end of august  a lot of dealers submit large quantities of coins during these NGC grading "parties" so I am hoping for some to pop up(I have our friend keeping his eyes out for me) that's where the last flush of older lunars came out of NGC's last on site grading fair, keep you eyes open for me G they are around but I don't want to pay high retail:)        my 2010 to present is complete but not all 70

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2014, 06:33:10 AM »
Good Luck J
I have checked NGC census and some of the years do not have any pf70's
I hope you find what you're looking for.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2014, 08:24:09 AM »
I collect some of the gold and silver fan-shaped and blossom-shaped coins.  Some of my coins have been graded as PF and some as MS.  As an example, I like the 2004 Year of Monkey fan-shaped coins.  I have one which is graded PF70UC and two which are graded MS70.  I have one which is graded MS69 and four which are graded PF69UC.  I do not care whether NGC grades the coins as mint state or proof.  I am not building sets.  I am buying my favorite designs.  If you are building sets, this may make a big difference to you.  Comments?

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2014, 09:51:29 AM »
you are right Mark ,There is lots of confusion around these lunars ,there are actually registry categories that are ms/pf on the fans,I have actually submitted fans that came back ms and the coa's clearly said proof on them ,I honestly think NGC is mistaken ,my understanding is the mint made these later fans as Proof only ,Maybe Peter Anthony can give us some clarification??
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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2014, 11:23:25 AM »
Normally, I include a copy of COAs with my submissions to NGC.  Then, they look at each coin, review the COA and make their determination.  Sometimes, I am puzzled by the designation.  Normally, I am not.  I am so happy to have the coin authenticated, graded and encapsulated that I do not care if it is a mint state or proof designation. 

Over the years, as I have built my collection, I have unknowingly purchased counterfeit coins and problem coins.  As soon as possible, I want to know about my mistakes.  Then, with luck, I can return counterfeit coins and I can decide whether to keep the problem coins.  If I cannot return counterfeit coins, I destroy them (to make certain no one else is "stuck" with them).

I do own all of the fan-shaped silver coins from 2000-2012.  And I do own multiples of some of these coins.  Again, some are graded as mint state and some are graded as proof (with the same design)(dragon, snake and horse).  Several years ago, this bothered me and I considered returning them to get consistency in my labels.  Then, I decided to forget about this issue and enjoy my coins.

Mark Bonke     

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2014, 12:37:27 PM »
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( .. ) Then, with luck, I can return counterfeit coins .....


but please only 2 x 1/2 piece. N67

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2014, 04:58:02 PM »
Very nice set !! I love the Chinese lunar coins, I am working on a 70 set as well starting with 2009 I hope they keep the design consistant throughout the 12 years. The one I am finding impossible to find in an NGC 70 is the 2009 Ox 10 y round , I would be interested if anyone that reads this forum has one.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2014, 05:00:25 PM »
Nice to see a good long thread about the Chinese lunar series!!
Oh and now i know where all the 2009 scallop ox are :001_tongue:

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2014, 05:46:25 PM »
OMG
Is that a hoard of fans ??

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #40 on: July 30, 2014, 07:07:24 PM »
 N16  WG has a hoard of everything! G ,it is great when he post pictures its like fantasyland

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #41 on: July 30, 2014, 11:15:28 PM »
Thanks Geo and WG for posting these ! that 1/2 OX is interesting what is the story with that? I guess the scale and picture says it best , Geeze

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2014, 02:26:23 AM »
N16  WG has a hoard of everything! G ,it is great when he post pictures its like fantasyland

That hoard is better than chocolate !!!

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2014, 03:06:08 PM »
Thanks Geo and WG for posting these ! that 1/2 OX is interesting what is the story with that? I guess the scale and picture says it best , Geeze
One ounce is approx 32 grams.  What is the weight of the authentic coin?
I don't speak German but I think it means he destroys the fakes he finds.
It is interesting how the Yuan symbol after the 10 is different in each coin.
Anyone have any details about that ?

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2014, 11:41:36 PM »
I dont know about this particular coin but the weight should be around 36-37 gm with capsule, if the scale is true then the coin is way off, looks like they cut it with a bandsaw or something, maybe plated base metal? I am wondering when it was made or when wg aquired it , the only fake lunar chinese coin from this series I have seen is the snake round which i posted here a while back, these seem to be high quality counterfeits which is scary and including the Yuan value on them makes for a full out counterfeit..

who post pictures like that ??? Thanks  WG your awsome...

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2014, 09:58:53 PM »
the ox is pretty highly faked because of the high value ,i bought a fake 2009 color ox  and did not know till it came back from NGC as counterfeit......very convincing    oh mini hoard of color   

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2014, 10:01:26 PM »
Would you willing to show hi-res side-by-side pictures of the fake and real ox for educational purpose?  I completely understand if you do not want to.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2014, 02:44:26 AM »
Very nice
I love that you have the CoA's

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2014, 05:16:22 AM »
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..side-by-side pictures of the fake and real ...

tiger ... but fake ox is similar.

the fakes are slightly thicker and weigh about 31.3 oz

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2014, 06:26:17 AM »
Would you willing to show hi-res side-by-side pictures of the fake and real ox for educational purpose?  I completely understand if you do not want to.
Dont have it any longer I bought it from someone in Europe, the seller stood behind it when he found out it was fake and took it back,I should have took some photo,s but i didnt sorry

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #50 on: August 02, 2014, 06:50:10 AM »
thanks WG , those tiger pictures tell the story as to how high quality the fakes are the ox and tiger 2009/2010 as everyone can see the tiger fake is pretty tricky IF you are after the tiger or ox my suggestion is to buy it from a reputable dealer who knows where he got it from or NGC graded better to pay a little more for piece of mind.  no one can give me answer as too why the ox is so expensive when it first was released with all the other ox lunar s on release it was $100 usd coin you could of bought them readily. then they disappeared. The plausible theory is 2009 was the change to the new design the mint did not know what the reaction would be so they did not make many .. they sold what was made and never minted more and went  on to the next year tiger more of the same not too many tigers made either. then the new design started to catch on they made plenty of rabbits, of course dragons arguably  being the most popular lunar ,snake plenty around ,now we come to the horse in color I think this is a sleeper year ,I bought and graded fans, scallops and colored went to sell them I was actually the first person to submit them to NGC and was having a hard time breaking even trying to sell them graded 69  ,fast forward 9 month,s the horses have doubled in value??
 

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2014, 07:26:38 AM »
Thanks for Pics and info guys. Great posts!

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2014, 10:14:03 AM »
I am a big lunar fan:) I love them. Thanks geoxx for starting the thread! WG feel free to post more pictures of the best lunar collection ever assembled Everyone loves them !!!!!! when WG post pictures readership increases 10 fold.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2014, 10:15:41 AM »
notice WG,s last picture in the background a pile of colored tigers :) makes me drool.....................

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2014, 11:05:13 AM »
Hove you seen how expensive the pf70 colorized have become?
That is...when you can find them.... especially the new designs

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2014, 06:49:58 PM »
I have not seen a 2009 pf70 ox colorized ever on the market? but it has to be a $2000 coin at least?     

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2014, 07:41:39 PM »
I was lucky enough to get one graded a pf 70 :thumbup: but it wont be for sale anytime soon
I am working on a 70 set of all the lunar 10 y starting in 2009, the only one missing so far is the ox round , no luck in my submissions so I will keep pleading for someone to sell me one . The tiger round was very very hard to find as well in a 70 and of course when I did the one package that ever went missing had it , I spent hours with the postal service to no avail, the actual ems driver had signed for it and knowone was able to do anything .. I figure either someone has a coin that is very very hard to come by or they broke it out of the slab and sold it at spot somewhere . Luckily someone dear had located another one which took over a year but I am very grateful. Some of these are very hard to get in a 70 and submitting them can get  expensive.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2014, 07:45:32 PM »
so silverstar ,round silver, colorized ,and scallop and fan ?  very ambitious in all 70:) 

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2014, 09:44:15 PM »
Yes , I think once and if I get the ox round it should be downhill from here as everyone seems to be getting the new issues graded so I dont even bother submitting them my self. I did submit most of the older ones and a few I bought with the silly color labels I will have to get reslabbed , Maybe I will wait though and get the whole set as consecutive numbers like mentioned earlier in this thread that sounds like a cool thing to do. I love the Chinese lunars and as some mentioned here I think there will be more interest in the future especially 70s but even 69s should pick up considering the high quality fakes out there.
As a side note JC i hope all is well with you and yours and I always enjoy your posts!

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2014, 09:58:42 PM »
Thanks  silverstar ! I just pm you.............

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #60 on: August 03, 2014, 01:36:39 PM »
I have noticed that NGC registry lists the Lunar Fan set II with a 2012 in MS and in PF.
I have only seen the 2012 fan in PF.
Has anyone ever seen an MS?
It doesn't even exist in NGC Census.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #61 on: August 03, 2014, 02:41:25 PM »
ngc has got that all wrong there are only proofs!

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #62 on: August 03, 2014, 02:42:32 PM »
That's what I thought
I sent them an email to have them correct their registry

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #63 on: August 03, 2014, 06:16:18 PM »
Here are the designations of all silver lunar series.

1981-1992 15gm proof

1988-1999 piedfort 1 oz. proof

1993-2004 plum-bloosom (scallop) 2/3 oz. proof

2005-present plum-bloosom (scallop) 1 oz. proof

1998-2009 colored 1 oz. proof

2010-present colored 1 oz. proof
 
1997-2008 nature color round 1 oz. BU

2009-present nature color round 1 oz. proof

2000-2011 fan 1 oz. BU

2012-present fan 1 oz. proof

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #64 on: August 03, 2014, 06:30:29 PM »
The attached picture shown the difference between fake and genuine 2010 colored tiger. The genuine is on the right.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #65 on: August 03, 2014, 06:57:49 PM »
also look At the fish on the obverse they are far less detailed than on the genuine ,those 2 telltale clues to a fake are on the fake ox I have seen also

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #66 on: August 04, 2014, 02:12:17 PM »
I know that this is the easiest lunar set to complete.
But it seems to be the only complete PF70 in the NGC registry. 
There must be many more.

I thought I would post it and open the floor to any comments.



Did you collect these in less than 6 months??? Quite well done!
Would you mind sharing why you chose to collect the scallop?
And thanks for sharing btw.
"Boards don´t hit back!"

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #67 on: August 04, 2014, 02:21:14 PM »
Did you collect these in less than 6 months??? Quite well done!
Would you mind sharing why you chose to collect the scallop?
And thanks for sharing btw.

I started with the scallops because I always start with the coins I like best.
It's always more of a pleasure collecting coins that please you
I managed to complete the set in about 3 months
But I am close to completing the Fan and Scallop 1 series as well