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Hello,

A fairly big and popular Long Beach Show is coming up from June 2 to 4. It will be nice to have a get together of members of this forum (who plan to attend) over beer, and may be setup a member only session of buy/trade/sell of chinese coins.

Once we have a quorum, we can post our coins for buy/sell/trade.

http://www.longbeachexpo.com/

Also, in this show, NGC representatives will be accepting direct coins submissions for NCS and NGC both.
« Last Edit: April 21, 2011, 02:30:05 PM by Pandora »

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2011, 05:08:32 PM »
Great idea Pandora!
I will try to find time to make it over there if possible.
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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 06:20:51 PM »
Courtesy of Victory Bullion (and Mr. Organic) I will do a book signing of the Gold and Silver Panda Coin Buyer's Guide at the Long Beach Show on Saturday June 4. I'll post the table number as soon as I have it. Would the Victory Bullion booth be an acceptable meeting spot? I'll be there pretty much all day so any time works for me. If you already own the book and want it signed just bring your copy with you. Otherwise come get one, buy or browse Raul's Pandas and let's talk Chinese coins!

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2011, 11:35:39 AM »
Hello Gang,

   I have moved to a larger & more centrally located table. #838 I will soon post a map.

Lets meet at the table some time sat afternoon??? 

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2011, 12:58:53 PM »
Sat afternoon sounds great. I will also bring my book for signing.

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2011, 01:12:52 PM »
Sat afternoon sounds great. I will also bring my book for signing.

That's great! I look forward to meeting you.

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Peter Anthony
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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2011, 09:10:58 PM »
That sounds exciting. I guess all of you live around there. I live on the east coast. How big is that show for chinese coins?

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011, 09:25:49 PM »
Long Beach is a good-sized regional show. Some of the usual exhibitors are Victory Bullion, PandaAmerica and Mish International. Champion Auctions and their President, Michael Chou are also often there. Besides them there should be a handful of other dealers with some Chinese material. So it's interesting without being huge. Most of the floor is dedicated to US material.

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 11:30:16 PM »
Panda Collector,
Can you shed some lights on American gold coins which do you recomend for collection that could appreciates similar like the chinese ?

Thanks.

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2011, 11:42:10 PM »
The 2009 Ultra High Relief 1 oz Gold Double Eagle is the only US modern gold coin I consider worth collecting. Mintage is approx 130K, but collector base is enormous. The most valued are MS70 PL (proof like), then MS70 First Strike, MS69 PL, MS69. All have appreciated nicely in value.

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2011, 11:57:27 PM »
Sat afternoon sounds great. I will also bring my book for signing.

Saturday is the last day of the show and many dealers will be busy packing up to leave...

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2011, 12:18:41 AM »
Saturday is the last day of the show and many dealers will be busy packing up to leave...

So may be Saturday morning will work better?

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2011, 12:25:23 AM »
Saturday at around 12:30 or so works best because I will be there trying to get all my shopping done all morning and last minute items submitted to NCS/NGC before they leave at noon.

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2011, 12:27:05 AM »
Hurray, looks like we have quorum. So what about doing some buying/selling/trading among us members...?

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2011, 02:26:29 AM »
Or, if not buying/selling/trading, how about a little show-and-tell?

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2011, 02:48:47 AM »
Or, if not buying/selling/trading, how about a little show-and-tell?

Badon, are you in this area? will you come? It will be great to meet you! I will bring all the coins I have hoarded :-)

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2011, 02:49:53 AM »
Hah, I might be, but I wouldn't tell you if I were :) I will be the guy with a black hat, dark glasses, and a fake moustache :)

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2011, 03:02:51 AM »
Ok, what if I bring a super clouded claw PF70 for you :-)

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2011, 03:03:51 AM »
You will definitely see my cash...no promises about anything else though. I'm not that kind of girl/guy/mysterious-person :)

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2011, 03:06:38 AM »
yeah, I did not mention that pf70 will be a god of wealth :-)

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2011, 03:23:11 AM »
Panda Collector,
Can you shed some lights on American gold coins which do you recomend for collection that could appreciates similar like the chinese ?

Thanks.

For appreciation, I prefer Chinese coins. Someone on this forum once wrote that they had done very well with, I think, First Wives proof coins. Those aren't very popular and the number sold is usually small.

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2011, 04:19:45 AM »
Panda Collector & Pandora,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on American gold coins.

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2011, 01:26:51 AM »
Hello All,

I am planning to come down to Long Beach as well.  I need to leave Sat AM, but I plan to be around on Thurs and Fri.  I am not planning to bring inventory to sell (unless there are requests), but it would be great to meet up with the Panda folks in attendance.

Feel free to email me, maybe we can all talk shop over a few beers

Jay

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2011, 01:39:30 AM »
Panda½, I am intrigued by the advantages of onsite NCS/NGC.

Do they include:
- An honest on the spot recommendation of whether a submission is fixable by NCS?
- An honest on the spot recommendation of likelihood of receiving a grading for a potential submission
- Price break?
- Less hassle with shipping rules?
- Others?

Thank you!
Great idea Pandora!
I will try to find time to make it over there if possible.
*Forum members please take note: Direct submission to NCS/NGC has many advantages.


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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #24 on: May 18, 2011, 01:41:55 AM »
email is jay@rarepandacoins.com
888 868-9979

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #25 on: May 18, 2011, 01:53:30 AM »
Hello All,

I am planning to come down to Long Beach as well.  I need to leave Sat AM, but I plan to be around on Thurs and Fri.  I am not planning to bring inventory to sell (unless there are requests), but it would be great to meet up with the Panda folks in attendance.

Feel free to email me, maybe we can all talk shop over a few beers

Jay

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This is great news! I also think friday evening will be better. It will be more informal settings and we can hear stories on coin hunt and coin hoardings :-)

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2011, 01:25:38 AM »
email is jay@rarepandacoins.com
888 868-9979

Jay, Please do stop by, been meaning to meet you. Peter will be our table for the entire show. maybe do dinner afterwards one night?

  This meet & greet is a great idea.  Going to be a load of fun.
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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2011, 02:19:37 AM »
I will certainly stop by.  Dinner sounds great. 

See you there!

Jay

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2011, 02:49:37 AM »
I will disguise myself as your server at the restaurant where you go to eat :)

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2011, 05:56:06 PM »
I am thinking since there are many people coming & going at different times, we can do a 12pm meet & greet spot at my table EVERDAY.

  Its smack in the center of the room #838

Sounds like a plan?
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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2011, 11:31:53 AM »
I want to say thank you to all that came! It was great meeting all of you & putting some faces to names.

Show was non-stop for us & I am sorry I couldnt socialize more.

Next L.B. we will have Peter signing his book thurs & sat. Alot of people came by on thurs.

Thanx again guys!

R

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2011, 11:54:01 AM »
Thanks for providing a focal point for everyone. It was nice to discover a thing or two about forum members and Pandas at your booth. I didn't buy or sell anything at the show but did submit to NCS directly which is always a bonus when it can be done.

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2011, 04:50:55 PM »
I would love to hear some commentary about the sales activity of the chinese coins at that show. I really wanted to make but could not. Any comments/reporting from Peter Anthony, badon, PeterPanda of Panda America will be highly appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2011, 04:51:58 PM »
I want to say thank you to all that came! It was great meeting all of you & putting some faces to names.

Show was non-stop for us & I am sorry I couldnt socialize more.

Next L.B. we will have Peter signing his book thurs & sat. Alot of people came by on thurs.

Thanx again guys!

R

VB

Thank you for writing about it. I guess I can deduce that sales were real healthy :) Any specifics will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2011, 11:21:36 PM »
The floor at Long Beach was active with lots of people gathered around tables that offered Chinese coins like Victory Bullion, PandaAmerica and Mish International. The Expo offered dealers a new lower cost option for tables in the back of the hall and apparently a fair number chose those. It had no effect on the Chinese coin dealers but there were a couple of more empty tables in the US section than I remember from past shows.

For me, the best thing about coin shows is the opportunity to meet people, exchange ideas and compare coins. In doing that Panda Halves, Pandora and I found a new minor variety of 2002 200 Yuan gold Panda. Later on Panda Halves noticed something more significant, but that will have to wait. Anyway, for me Long Beach was great. It isn't every day that a writer can get free advice and story ideas from some of the truly outstanding collectors and dealers in the industry.

I know that many Forum members are interested in the 1980 Olympics coins, particularly the brass set. The most difficult coin to find in it is the archer. Here is a photo of an original sheet of archers for those who have never seen one before (like me). It was brought to Long Beach but wasn't on public display. The wording on the end of the box indicates the coins were struck at the Shanghai Mint. I hope to see you all at the next show – you never know what you will see and find. Happy collecting!



Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2011, 03:42:57 AM »
My impression of the market right now is that buying is strong, but selling is weak. We're entering the peak of the slowdown, and supply has tapered off noticeably with more sellers taking vacations. Not many Chinese coins were available for sale at the show, but plenty of people were looking for them - and not finding them!

All indications are pointing towards another exciting market when the slowdown tapers off towards August. Lots of people are buying up coins, but not selling them. NCS has a 3 month backlog of coins, which should tell you something. Chinese coins are probably a big fraction of the coins clogging their processing pipeline.

Also, new NCS/NGC authorized dealer applications have surged to the highest levels ever. There's a 1 month waiting list in processing new applications.

Most of these things are happening behind the scenes, and will begin to show themselves around August/September. The predicted timing of the end of the slowdown is almost exactly matching the size of the NCS backlog! Dealers are getting ready for the next bonanza.

On top of all that, rumors are saying that the next round of inflationary money policies will occur at about the same time too...

Don't bother to hold on to your hats, it's going to be a shredded mess anyway once this market spins up into a tornado late in the year :)

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2011, 03:45:11 AM »
Here's the perfect example of how strong sales are, and how sellers are curtailing supply:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=3001.msg13320#msg13320

That's right here on our own forum, but seems to be typical of the entire market. People are waiting for the August auctions to set new higher prices before they sell too much.

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2011, 07:52:13 AM »
Thank you , Peter & badon, so much for the commentary. I would love to make the next one.

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Re: Get Together, Buy,Sell,Trade -- Long Beach Coin Show, June 2-4
« Reply #38 on: June 18, 2011, 12:45:42 PM »
damn I would loved to attend something like this... Florida is only six hours away and there I could submit my collection for grading directly.. would have to check customs regulations for bringing in coins though...