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Features => Fake Chinese Coins => Topic started by: sbtigon on December 31, 2017, 10:54:18 AM

Title: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: sbtigon on December 31, 2017, 10:54:18 AM
Is this set genuine?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/China-set-3-Coins-1-Yuan-1984-AUNC-UNC-PRC-Found-35TH-Ann-Commemorative-Coin/272567527271?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: poconopenn on December 31, 2017, 02:55:55 PM
The current fair value for NGC MS66 set is about $130. This seller asks $90 for AU/UNC set is definitely overpriced. It is a good practice to buy coin at eBay only from seller who posts clear pictures of both sides of coin.

http://www.coin001.com/hack.php?H_name=auction&testcoin=1&skip=1&skip=1&action=detail&auction_status=3&aid=70803
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: sbtigon on January 01, 2018, 01:51:32 AM
I am grateful for the comment.
I am trying to complete my PR China  collection and it is difficult with many fakes and different prices
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: aragog on January 01, 2018, 11:16:44 AM
I am grateful for the comment.
I am trying to complete my PR China  collection and it is difficult with many fakes and different prices
It is not easy to get better price for this set, though
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: poconopenn on January 01, 2018, 02:24:59 PM
It is not easy to get better price for this set, though

Here are the recent auction results (last two months) at coin001 for MS64/65 ($90), 65 ($100), 67($270) and 68 ($950) sets. The fair price for AU/UNC set should be about $60. The average grade for coin from original bank roll is about MS65.
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: Little Finger on January 02, 2018, 10:05:29 PM
The results are mainly from Chinese auction sites, might be an issue for non-Chinese trying to buy from those sites.
Are mainland Chinese collectors better at spotting fakes ? Or maybe better informed as they have the first access to high quality fakes that surface from China ?
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: pandamonium on January 03, 2018, 07:40:45 AM
Member here and ebay seller worldcollectibles have for sale....  1984 Y PR 68  Dancers      Ebay 253313251071...
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: sbtigon on January 03, 2018, 07:59:33 AM
Here are the recent auction results (last two months) at coin001 for MS64/65 ($90), 65 ($100), 67($270) and 68 ($950) sets. The fair price for AU/UNC set should be about $60. The average grade for coin from original bank roll is about MS65.

Is this website http://www.coin001.com available in English and do they accept paypal? The prices are much better than on ebay
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: sbtigon on January 16, 2018, 11:10:40 AM
Seller has put both sides up at my request can you tell if the coins is genuine?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/China-set-3-Coins-1-Yuan-1984-AUNC-UNC-PRC-Found-35TH-Ann-Commemorative-Coin/272567527271?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: poconopenn on January 16, 2018, 03:53:54 PM
Seller has put both sides up at my request can you tell if the coins is genuine?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/China-set-3-Coins-1-Yuan-1984-AUNC-UNC-PRC-Found-35TH-Ann-Commemorative-Coin/272567527271?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
IMO, this set is genuine from Shenyang Mint, but in AU/BU condition. The set in the following link is for Shanghai Mint version in Choice BU condition.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-China-PRC-Found-35TH-Anniversary-Commemorative-1-YUAN-3pcs-UNC-Coins-set/232622113053?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D47301%26meid%3Dae22e96d582b4f77a2686dfa72ba36d2%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D272567527271&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: sbtigon on January 17, 2018, 06:55:24 AM
@ poconopenn I am grateful for your help

Are these 3 coins genuine? I will be very grateful for your guidance
https://www.ebay.com/itm/China-5-Yuan-coin-1995-golden-monkey-A-UNC-Rare-wild-animals/272394650143?hash=item3f6bfc821f:g:32YAAOSwzaJX7M9W

https://www.ebay.com/itm/China-5-Yuan-coin-1993-giant-panda-A-UNC-rare-wild-animal-serial/401345258732?epid=1133070929&hash=item5d720aa4ec:g:lcEAAOSw8w1X7MtS

https://www.ebay.com/itm/elf-China-5-Yuan-1993-Panda-Copper-in-folder/372192074546?hash=item56a8605b32:g:5TEAAOSwoVNaJ2NH
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: sbtigon on January 18, 2018, 02:14:47 AM
The Shanghai mint coins are not available and differnt coins are available.

The first seller sent these photos.. are they genuine Shenyang mint PRC 35th anniversary? Request help
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: poconopenn on January 18, 2018, 08:24:02 PM
The Shanghai mint coins are not available and differnt coins are available.

The first seller sent these photos.. are they genuine Shenyang mint PRC 35th anniversary? Request help

The pictures show Shanghai Mint version.

Just friendly advice, be patient and study the coin. There are many valuable information in this forum. You should not buy anything which you have no knowledge about.
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: sbtigon on January 18, 2018, 09:01:14 PM
I got your advice too late..
I already bought these  coins BU... and Taiwan 5 Jiao..
I hope they look genuine to you..and are Shanghai mint? I will know weight and get better image when I get the coins.

Sorry for disturbing you but I am not  very knowledgeable about Chinese coins. Before buying  Year of Goat 2003 1 Yuan I will study properly
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: sbtigon on January 31, 2018, 08:01:55 AM
I bought these coins

I hope they are real

Lighthouse 9.47 grammes
Mao  9.5 grammes
Dancers 9.29 grammes
Title: Re: 1985 35 th nniversary of PRC
Post by: poconopenn on January 31, 2018, 05:31:32 PM
I bought these coins

I hope they are real

Lighthouse 9.47 grammes
Mao  9.5 grammes
Dancers 9.29 grammes

IMO, they are genuine, but in AU/BU condition and made by Shanghai Mint. The coin should weigh about 9.32 gm with a diameter of 30 mm.