Topic: Ebay sellers´sales method?

[Gilmore]

Sorry to hear that.

[jc888888888]

sorry to hear that also , gaining a customer would probably be more important than worrying about a few bucks lost on shipping charges for a prudent seller .............

[Slabman]

Hmm, I don´t think I´ll be very happy with his/their way of fixing it 

That is only 1/3 of his shipping cost and his terms and explanation is a bunch of 

The response from the seller is unacceptable and you should open a case in ebay.  I also encourage you to post the sellers name here so we all can be aware of their sales practices.

If the seller posted a pic of a stock photo, you should have every right under ebay to ask for a full refund.  As this practice IMO is not acceptable.  Also, the seller is mistaken about the PCGS and/or NGC guarantee. They do not cover spotting that occurs after grading.  This is considered environmental damage. 

The coin you received is not a 69 grade with the spot and depending on how large the spot is, it could probably be a 67 at best.  To be honest, you will have a very difficult time reselling this coin in the future, and will probably be only worth half what you paid for it.  A picture would be helpful.

Please do not accept the sellers response.  This should not be your problem.

[AllSong]

A pic is in its place, correct. Should have uploaded in the first post, but now it´s weekend (=more time for a salary slave as myself)and I will try to upload some of my new MCCs 

Here is the coin

 

[digbird]

Allsong, send the seller a link to this thread. Maybe he will make the proper adjustment for you. He has no legs to stand on if he didn't warn you of milk/white spots of death at the time of the listing.

Sounds like he is just pawning off an inferior coin. A good dealer would just give you full refund or substitute for a better spot free coin with no extra shipping charges.   

 

[AllSong]

I am learning more & more.

Anyway, FYI the seller is thelondoncoincompany, PCGS Authorised Dealer and Members of the BNTA and ANA & specialists in buying, selling and grading coins from the UK and around the World

[bekiz]

I am learning more & more.

Anyway, FYI the seller is thelondoncoincompany, PCGS Authorised Dealer and Members of the BNTA and ANA & specialists in buying, selling and grading coins from the UK and around the World

bought coins from them but only graded ones
for raw coins I'd better buy from companies that do not do business by grading and selling the coins. They tend to grade the best and the rest go to ebay ungraded thus the condition of those ungraded ones are not that good.

[jc888888888]

It is ridiculous that this seller who otherwise has a good reputation is creating bad will over a 2009 ungraded panda I have bought from this seller and not had a problem HMMMMMMMMM  we are not talking about a astronomical sum of money here.

[AllSong]

It is/was  a graded MS69 2009...

[AllSong]

Here we´ve got a quite deceiving seller. What is "very rare" about silver plated replicas?

eb item 131091397784

Fortunately they have obvious differences to the real set, but still don´t like the listing.

[Canadiancoinguy]

Allsong, I'm sorry to say, but any seller who is lazy enough to post one picture for multiple items is a seller to avoid. When I buy on the bay, I am buying the coin that I see in the picture, plain and simple. You should have heeded the warning that he gave you right in the description, about "you might not get the coin pictured" but hey, live and learn.

The price of shipping this coin back to him is not a waste of money in my opinion. Rather it will serve to remind you to be dilligent when you are buying. Hope you settled the matter after all.

[BobW]

There are unfortunately more than a few sellers who do not reveal problems that are on the coins they sell. The problem has gotten worse the last few years. If the seller is unknown to you and maybe even if known to you, before bidding on an item, contact the seller and ask if the coin has any spots, scratches or other distractions/problems. Reputable sellers will respond to your question.

I have noticed lately that some sellers have stated in their listings that if the buyer is unhappy with their purchase, the buyer should return the item and the seller will refund the purchase price and the return shipping cost as well. May this trend have wings.

[PandaOrLunar]

Unfortunately, not all sellers are that good in taking full responsibility.  In some BIN situation, waiting for a response is not an option.

These sellers are short sighted and letting return shipping costing destroys a relationship that could benefit them in the long run.  Greed struck again.

[Contrapunctus]

You should return the coin.  A coin that develops a milk spot after grading is no longer a 69 grade.  The value of your coin is less than you paid for it.

That is not true, I had a NGC PR69 silver proof medal (dated 1988) that developed milk spots only AFTER grading and it is a PR69. Before I sent it to NGC, it doesn't have milk spots at all.

That means:
- For over 20 years, the proof medal was WITHOUT milk spots while in its original plastic capsule
- Milk spots only developed after I sent it to NGC for grading
- It returned to me with PR69 grade and with lots of milk spots all over
- That was the last time I ever send anything to NGC

[Mirkkanen]

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