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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2022, 01:11:27 PM »
Good suggestion SANDAC. Most antique/vintage coins in circulation for many many years, they have hits or deterioration/wears. With increasing value of mint error coins, I predict some fake doubled die coins will soon emerge.

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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2022, 01:21:57 PM »
This may be the photo -refraction or reflection or whatever, that is why different photos with different angles are usually needed. Thanks Peter, Pandamonium and KeyDate for refreshing my knowledge,  I am going to move on my project to find same doubled die coins.
PCGS published Doubled Die Coin -4#

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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2022, 01:25:32 PM »
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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2022, 04:07:30 PM »
Look at your vintage coins very carefully.  Ejection doubled are common so are cracked die and rotated dies in vintage coins.  Even in MCC, you can sometimes find cracked die in large coins and ejection doubled in small coins.





Another issue is the Vintage reverse rotation.  (I hope that is correct language.)  Very few MCC, mostly Vintage.  Is Reverse Rotation a error?   A few years ago there were several of them on ebay but today close to zero so they are being bought up.....

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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2022, 04:22:32 PM »

Another issue is the Vintage reverse rotation.  (I hope that is correct language.)  Very few MCC, mostly Vintage.  Is Reverse Rotation a error?   A few years ago there were several of them on ebay but today close to zero so they are being bought up.....

Yes as far as I know, rotated die is a mint error, it definitely adds up to the coin value. However, I am the guy only interested in doubled die, I think those doubling letters/figures are beautiful  N46

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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2022, 04:30:29 PM »
Interesting.   I just did a ebay search Error China.  Some big prices for Vintage errors...


Photo of 1993 G5Y MS 69 LD 1/20 Mint Error Obverse Struck Thru gold panda  SOLD last yr about $145 bids.  Cheap for a official mint error.  I do not see many Mint Error gold pandas...

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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #36 on: January 25, 2022, 01:20:57 AM »
Struck thru happen in a dirty factory where air quality is poor and some lint falls on a coin before it is struck.  1989 LD, 1990 SD, 1991 SD, 1992 SD, 1993 SD...  In general, most shenyang mint coins have the issue, despite the coins being proof quality.  Many coins are struck thru, but most submitters don't ask for it to be designated because it costs extra.

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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #37 on: January 25, 2022, 10:54:54 AM »
Struck thru happen in a dirty factory where air quality is poor and some lint falls on a coin before it is struck.  1989 LD, 1990 SD, 1991 SD, 1992 SD, 1993 SD...  In general, most shenyang mint coins have the issue, despite the coins being proof quality.  Many coins are struck thru, but most submitters don't ask for it to be designated because it costs extra.

True and I noticed many sellers have to point out errors themself. That works for doubled die and other major errors but it does not work well for minor error like struck thru and minor misaligned/rotated die.

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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2022, 11:01:07 AM »
I found this coin from top post of this board, it was posted by dragondollar awhile ago. Nice One!

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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2022, 03:32:32 PM »
Struck thru happen in a dirty factory where air quality is poor and some lint falls on a coin before it is struck.  1989 LD, 1990 SD, 1991 SD, 1992 SD, 1993 SD...  In general, most shenyang mint coins have the issue
1984 Gold Panda broken leg might be struck thru?

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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2022, 01:18:32 AM »
I am going to move on my project to find same doubled die coins.
I recently found many 1911 Empire Hsuan-t'ung Year 3 Dollars with same  so-called doubled die error, I was so happy that my hypothesis is proved N66
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Basically, they all present doublings on letters ONE DOLLAR.


After carefully inspecting the doublings, I feel they are machine doublings but not real doubled die. Peter and other freinds, I need your expertise advice to ID this error N39 N39

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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #41 on: February 01, 2022, 09:54:24 AM »
I recently found many 1911 Empire Hsuan-t'ung Year 3 Dollars with same  so-called doubled die error, I was so happy that my hypothesis is proved.

After carefully inspecting the doublings, I feel they are machine doublings but not real doubled die. Peter and other freinds, I need your expertise advice to ID this error N39 N39

I was able to confirmed it is real doubled die on another coin forum I used to go, I conclude here that we can find same doubled die Chinese coins and many doubled die coins are not random or unique. I will post here if I can find more same doubled die.
Happy Chinese New Year  N39 N39 N39

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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2022, 11:41:17 PM »
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I will post here if I can find more same doubled die.
Hi I am back to update my new finding. I found another two identical doubled die coins - 1912 Republic 10 Cash.
Coin-1

Coin-2

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Re: Chinese Doubled Die Coins
« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2022, 11:48:00 PM »
Hi I am back to update my new finding. I found another two identical doubled die coins - 1912 Republic 10 Cash.
Coin-1

Coin-2

Side by side comparison. What do you think?