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fwang2450:
A Korean seller is currently selling altered key date cents, two in NGC slabs:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-China-1981Y-1fen-unc-details/152644638299?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-China-1981Y-5fen-unc-details/152644638848?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-China-1980Y-5fen-unc/152644639475?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-China-1979Y-5fen-unc/152644639935?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

The same seller sold an altered 1980 5 fen a few weeks ago.

Please watch out. No cherries to pick here.

poconopenn:
Two raw coins (1979 and 1980 5 fen) are definitely altered coins. The pictures of two NGC graded coins are in poor condition and can not see the details. However, they appear to be identical to the pictures at NGC website, at least the holders of these two coins are genuine.

The seller also sold an altered 1957 1 Fen previously.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957y-China-coin-unc-/162567054443?nma=true&si=ZxHg3hPvzHBAEkyFI7%252By0A2X6As%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

fwang2450:
On the two NGC slabbed coins, the counterfeiter forgot that the MS 1981 1 fen and 5 fen were produced by Shenyang Mint, not Shanghai Mint. They used the Shanghai Mint versions for alteration, with awn tips sticking out. It is a shame that NGC did not even notice this difference. The best solution is for NGC to buy them back.

poconopenn:

--- Quote from: fwang2450 on August 01, 2017, 12:10:06 AM ---On the two NGC slabbed coins, the counterfeiter forgot that the MS 1981 1 fen and 5 fen were produced by Shenyang Mint, not Shanghai Mint. They used the Shanghai Mint versions for alteration, with awn tips sticking out. It is a shame that NGC did not even notice this difference. The best solution is for NGC to buy them back.

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i
Yes, you are right. The 1981 UNC version is from most expensive red folder mint set made by Shenyang, while 1981 proof set was made by Shanghai. These two NGC graded fen coins, appears to be proof version which are significant cheaper than UNC version.

Attached is picture of genuine 1957 1 Fen for comparison of altered 1957 1 Fen posted previously.

fwang2450:

--- Quote from: poconopenn on August 01, 2017, 12:49:49 AM ---i
Yes, you are right. The 1981 UNC version is from most expensive red folder mint set made by Shenyang, while 1981 proof set was made by Shanghai. These two NGC graded fen coins, appears to be proof version which are significant cheaper than UNC version.


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They would be fine as proof versions, but these are altered business strikes.

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